„Wait, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 206: star Crushes | Autostraddle

It was my personal cousin’s check out choose the motion picture at Blockbuster and she’d picked

A Walk to keep in mind

. „Sorry. This can be a lady film,” my mommy warned. As soon as we had gotten home and viewed it as a family group, I didn’t show my rips. Or my personal desire. I did not acknowledge that We liked the movie and, furthermore, enjoyed top honors. The year ended up being 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this flick and Avril Lavigne publishing her debut album, I would found the 2 kinds of celebrity crushes that will haunt the rest of my youth.

Celebrity crushes suggest more to queer people than they actually do to straight individuals. They may be our basic expressions of queer desire or our first expressions of sex envy. They could be a safe location to test cravings which are not prepared when it comes to real world.

For this reason this week we’re speaking with creator and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celebrity crushes. We explore exactly how celeb thirsting feels comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual individual. We speak about how I think a lot of my personal star crushes are style of obtainable. And, naturally, we talk about the well-known older women on Christina’s h2o package.

But initially! Christina quizzes me on a topic I’m sure small about â lesbian love novels

SHOW NOTES

+ the actual love novels referenced within our game had been:

The X Element

,

Breaking Character

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Reality

.

+ My research for two fans sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s research for just two enthusiasts discussing a wall:

+ listed here are all Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

Straightforward Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Tragedy Girls

Feeling Caught

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If anything like me, you’ve got no idea whom Lindsay Shookus is actually,
here’s a timeline
of her union with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is extremely fearless of me, because I don’t bear in mind every little thing I had written to my Tumblr, but here’s a link to
my personal Nicole Kidman project
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Rock cover
.

+ an indication to watch

P-Valley

and study
Natalie’s coverage
.

EPISODE

Jordan:

Actually anytime Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped up on display, every time i recently went, „Oh, God.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and „Oh, Jesus,” like every fucking time.

[theme song plays]

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

And That I’m Christina.

Drew:

And this is Hold Off, So Is This A Date?.

Christina:

You realize, Wait, So is this A Date? is an Autostraddle podcast whereby we constantly forget about just who claims what, it doesn’t matter how long we have now taped. Uh, I think that is in fact really stunning. And my earphones simply dropped right off my personal head. So.

Drew:

So a strong sâ, powerful begin.

Christina:

A good start. But largely, it really is a podcast about dating and, like, figuring out what relationship is just in case we all know tips take action, much like we figure out basically learn how to keep personal headphones on my really head.

Drew:

Which is fantastic. Um, my name is Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uhâ¦ Or do you actuallyâ¦ But did you desire us to dwell thereon longer? I am acquiring seems.

Christina:

No, I’m only homeâ¦

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

â¦on me.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

Exciting should you chat, I think. (laughs)

Drew:

Appropriate. Um, uh, I am Drew Gregory. I am a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans lady besides. Those are identity brands that You will find. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, absolutely. I’m Christina Tucker. I’m additionally a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month I’ve really and truly just been like a woman about area. I actually just been likeâ

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

âwoman at large, typically in variousâ

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

âbeaches, uh, for the Jersey Shore.

adultdatingfriends.biz/sex-chat-room.html

Drew:

You actually have.

Christina:

But still experiencing really at large and whimsical in a manner that today we demonstrably believe tired by.

Drew:

Certain.

Christina:

I am Ebony and homosexual, which stones in my situation.

Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I don’t know precisely why i am therefore weird now. I, like, don’t know exactly who i’m. What’s happening?

Drew:

Its okay. We’re gonna keep goin’.

Christina:

What I do have, though, Drew, is actually a game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Give Thanks To Jesus.

Christina:

And This Also video game I am evaluating your understanding of anything I know you do not have many information about, that will beâ

Drew:

Oh Jesus.

Christina:

âfun. Um, it is aâ¦ its calledâ¦ I do not even have a reputation for this. We perhaps should’ve looked at a name. But fundamentally, I Will provide you with three lesbian love brands, and you’re headingâ

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

âto need to let me know which are the real types of this three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two I have created, you’re real. And you are going to need select the real one and tell me how you feel it’s about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Isn’t it time?

Drew:

I am. What outstanding video game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Right here we go. The most important three.

The X Ingredient

,

The It Element

, and

The Truth people

.

Drew:

Huh. It really is funny, ’cause you’ll believe

The X Ingredient

would really be

The X Factor

alongside

The It Element

, butâ

Christina:

Positive.

Drew:

We wanna stateâ¦ i simplyâ¦ Oh, i am hoping I am not unintentionally insulting you, but i’m like

The X Element

could be the clunkiest, which means you won’t came up with that. It has to be genuine.

Christina:

You will be appropriate. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I Am therefore grateful.

Christina:

Exactly what do you imagine

The X Element

concerns?

Drew:

Um, i do believe really about two lesbians who will be exes and end up on a single reality cooking reveal that’s sort of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Program

. Like, it goes on for some time but it has actually kind of the weather of

Chopped

. Um, and they are exes thereforeâ¦ It’s sort of similar aâ¦ I’m not sure if this would depend as an opponents to enthusiasts because they happened to be lovers at some point, but it is like an exes to straight back together.

Christina:

I love that. In addition love that by asking you to tell me what you think these publications go for about, i have only generated you make romance plots.

Drew:

I favor it.

Christina:

That’s really fun. Uh, unfortuitously

The X Element

is actually, uh, about an assistant just who rests with her supervisor. And when I started reading it last week on the beach, we mentioned, „this might be absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic with which has turned into a proper book.” Once I show I see the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, we sure have actually. To make certain that’s a journey.

Drew:

Wait, but just why is it known as

The X Element

?

Christina:

Really, when you look at the original fanfic, the X component wasâ¦ There seemed to be some form of reason that Miranda had every one of her personnel, uh, eat the lady out to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Can’t actually recall exactly what the, the storyline, the backstory ,was thereon, um, but in brand new one, in this genuine circulated version I should state, uh, the X ingredient i suppose is, I don’t know, simply, like, that her assistant’s hot and she is want, „Oh, Im gay now and I also wanna have sexual intercourse together with her.” Like, I am not sure. The X component is hot.

Drew:

Sufficient for me. Okay.

Christina:

There you decide to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Reduced Hearts Club

â¦

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

â¦

Splitting Character

,

Going for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, all those sound like they may be real. I really want it to be

Busting Personality

, but i do believe

Cracked Hearts Club

is actually actual.

Christina:

Unfortunately,

Reduced Hearts Club

is certainly not real. And lucky individually,

Busting Personality

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Oh my Jesus, i will’ve merely eliminated using my instinct.

Christina:

Pick your instinct, babe.

Drew:

Splitting Personality

. Okay, it’s about sort of like the feminine Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female actor just who requires her technique acting very seriously, and she develops an union together with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it really is uncertain both for the woman co-star and also for the actor if co-star is in love together with her or in love together figure. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Seriously, that’s not far-off from the genuine plot of

Splitting Personality

, and is in fact about two actresses, one who is actually, uh, been labeled as a bitch but is not necessarily, it is merely getting, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she is on like a

Gray’s Structure

sort healthcare programâ

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

âthat features actually gone off of the rails. Her figure’s the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, the woman new co-star Summer â that is correct, her name is Summer â is quite charming and wonderful. And due to very bonkers land reasons, they should have a fake connection. Nonetheless’re both homosexual soâ¦

Drew:

So absolutely nothing occurs. They don’t establish any emotions.

Christina:

Yeah, so they really you shouldn’tâ¦ Yeah, absolutely nothing.

Drew:

They never ever connect. No.

Christina:

Nothing takes place. They never mention it and additionally they have never intercourse.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is just what takes place.

Drew:

Sometimes that is the way it goes.

Christina:

Okay, your upcoming three.

Resort Queens

,

News Moguls

, or

Eatery Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I Am going to follow my personal instinct and choose the one which I Do Want To be realâ

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

âand wish that that’s genuine.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:

Hotel Queens

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Wow, I Am killing it. (laughs)

Christina:

You are destroying this. For a person who perhaps not study a ton of lesbian love, uh, it really is within bloodstream, babe.

Drew:

Okay, i’ll today state the plot that I hope it really is, though I’m pretty sure considering my personal understanding of posting sector this is simply not the fact. But i’d like that it is about two contestants on a show much like, want,

Drag Race

’cause you’re not truly expected to, similar, be in one another’s spaces but, you understand, they stay static in a lodge through the whole recording from the tv show. So they establish, like, a kind of dramatic affair that for quite some time can not be consummated, however their rooms are alongside one another so they really, like, knock on the wall in-between all of them then while they are shooting, absolutely like most of the stress and it’sâ¦ And yeah, that’s, that’s what i would like

Hotel Queens

getting when it comes to.

Christina:

That seems very hot. Um, which is not exactly what

Hotel Queens

concerns. It’s simply about a woman who runs accommodations and, uh, an other woman who operates a competing hotel.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Exactly Who works for a contending hotel sequence as well as, uhâ

Drew:

Sure, sure, yes.

Christina:

âquite practically are lodge queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But I adore that power. I like the slamming on theâ¦ really, uh,

knock 3 times regarding threshold if you’d like me personally

electricity, which I like.

Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Vibrant Celebrity

, and I also love every, I adore all of our various cultural points, you understand.

Christina:

I like all of our brains.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

I think brains are so beautiful.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

All right,

Paid in Paradise

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

sounds enjoyable. I’m going with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:

Payback’s a Witch

. And it’s really enjoyable ’cause really a real publication.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Tell me how you feel

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about.

Drew:

Okay, I Managed To Get it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a young homosexual witch is having difficulties in order to make rent in the early several months associated with the pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Therefore the property owner is a lot like, „No, you have to nonetheless offer money.” And she’s like, „But appear, like, all theseâ¦ you realize, like, it’s not possible to evict myself,” and all these various things and like, „you ought to provide me some slack,” and „It’s a pandemic.” Together with property manager’s love, „No, i am a landlord. I detest you.”

And after that she is likeâ¦ She goes, „No, I’m a witch,” so after that she starts tormenting the property manager. Really Love tale isn’t utilizing the landlord, maybe not an enemies-to-lovers scenario becauseâ

Christina:

âCause landlords tend to be poor. Sure. (laughs)

Drew:

But really she finds out that the woman neighbor normally a witch and in addition a lesbian, so they torment the property manager together and fall-in love on the way. It type of has actually like a Roald Dahl power, like

The Twits

. Or

Fantastic Mr. Fox

. Like, there is not truly, likeâ¦ there is not lots of conflict the moment the initial dispute takes place. Like, the two of them merely are just like, „We’re both witches. We’re gonna torment this individual exactly who has a right to be tormented.” Right after which obtained intercourse.

Christina:

That is actually truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

concerns, as an alternative, a female that is, you guessed it, a witch exactly who returns to her home town in which it’s the just destination that she can carry out magicâ

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

âbecause there is like a miraculous lake. This lady has been without forces.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she fulfills a, a female she had a crush in senior school. Uh, absolutely like a complete lengthy, like, puzzle world-building thing aided by the city together with individuals that run town. They meet up. It’s very nice. Fun publication,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Frankly, of this types up until now, this is the any I would most want to study.

Christina:

Payback’s a Witch

is quite fun. Uh, there is certainly a follow up compared to that book, however it is unfortuitously about right folks. Therefore.

Drew:

Crazy.

Christina:

You win some, you lose some. Fine, here’s our very own last any.

Honesty and 2nd Possibilities

,

When Reality Satisfies Fiction

â

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

âor

The Brutal Reality

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna opt for

Whenever Facts Touches Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, definitely unfortuitously from my head by yourself. Uh,

The Brutal Facts

, neverthelessâ¦

Drew:

The good thing is that

The Brutal Truth

and

When Truth Suits Fiction

, I think both are a comparable thing and that’sâ

Christina:

Yeah, they will end up being.

Drew:

ânovel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Show

as well as Bradley Jackson and her truth-telling. But we imagine if it was released, for copyright laws reasons they performed must alter some particulars. So her name’s maybe not Bradley Jackson anymore, but it is in the same way plotted.

Christina:

And That’s a shame because Bradley Jackson is actually top among the biggest figure labels actually place to report, um, despite howâ

Drew:

Completely.

Christina:

âridiculous every little thing about it is. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Reality

is about a mass media mogul whom gets control a having difficulties paper and drops in love with the crime copywriter, whom writesâ

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

âat the nighttime. Uh, they have a rather nice coming together. The mass media mogul is actually extremely mean and like 20 years older than she is. It is incredible material.

Drew:

Certain.

Christina:

And I also will, because I worry a great deal in regards to our audience, obviously consist of website links to among these genuine guides within the tv series records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

In addition to rest of them, they’re going to go-back into my brain where they belong. In addition, creating titles of booksâ¦ Like I am able to produce plots for a romance books all day every day. Titles is, like, in fact shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you did excellent.

Christina:

Thanks a lot. I recently needed that match.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own very special guest is among the best people to thirst about stars with. Very special guest, the trend is to present your self therefore we could possibly get into celebrity crush chat?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Its aâ And Drew. Hello. I, Im Jordan Crucchiola. Of course you tune in to any of my personal podcasts, you could have begun making use of the Simple Podcast that we did with Christina. And as I mentioned when I signed to this cam, the last time we had been on a pod collectively was actually whenever we had been interviewing Blake Lively.

Christina:

And, when I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-micâ

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

âabout wow, Blake Livelyis only in somewhat Zoom corner.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There she is. She actually is got a whole lot locks. What’s occurring? She’s talkin’ to all of us for so long.

Jordan:

Pick God, Blake. Many thanks.

Christina:

It actually was crazy instances. Crazy occasions.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you wish to say a bit more about who you are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I would like to claim that Im a person who likes Drew Gregory’s the thing I give consideration to is definitive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. thanks.

Jordan:

There was specific one in which, umâ¦ Because the tv series helps make myself so extremelyâ¦ Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from Jesus.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

Together with tv show makes me personally extremely uneasy in how single brain-trust founder, executor, music producer, movie director, creator, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.